I've got a thing-o-matic, and it seems to be working well, however a little after getting into a print, something happens and the printed material unsticks from the base. I started by cleaning the base, thinking that there was something on it (like grease) that prevented the the plastic from sticking well, however, after cleaning it with rubbing alcohol, I'm still having problems.
It seems to print layer one (the base), then sometime into the next layer, the nozzle tags the already printed material and moves the whole thing. I then make a frowning face.
Any tips? Thanks all!
Are you using the Automated Build Platform (ABP) or the Heated Buil Platform (HBP)?
ABP: known to be problematic as the belt is not a firm holder of the part and the nozzles pushes it out of place. Should work well for flat parts but you are having issues very soon after the print starts
HBP: cleaned with acetone, leveled correctly and z-height calibrated it is not known to be an issue. In such scenario a tool-less human being cannot remove layer 1. The fact that your is being pushed out place this early on the print indicates some is not right with your Z axis.
Z-axis: is anything prevent the Z-stage to move appropriately? Wires on the way or loose nuts or bushings somewhere?
I almost seems that the z-axis is not going up. Can you jog it up and down on the control panel?
It seems to print layer one (the base), then sometime into the next layer, the nozzle tags the already printed material and moves the whole thing. I then make a frowning face.
I've found a couple of causes and I think I've eliminated most of them from my builds.
I've had this occur when the build curls upwards. This happens often on overhangs (e.g. the centre piece of the "Cube Gears"). The curling overhang moves upwards (!) into the path of the nozzle and the model gets bumped off the build plate. My solution was to reduce the build temperature from 225 to 210 and to print slower (e.g. by wasting time building supports). This gives each layer time to cool and gain some strength before the next layer comes on top. The curling is significantly reduced and the nozzle clears each layer perfectly now.
I've also had this occur with the ABP. The plastic conveyor belt is too flexible, so even when the model sticks tightly to the raft and the raft sticks tightly to the conveyor belt, the model still tilts significantly. I could see the model tilting back and forth. Eventually the model starts to wobble back and forth with the nozzle until eventually the nozzle pushes it off the belt. I've removed the plastic conveyor belt and added Kapton tape directly to the aluminium foil. Now there is zero tilt and the prints are much better.
I've also had little to no luck with raftless printing. The first half dozen layers are fine, but then the top layers start to cool and contract while the bottom (heated) layer is still expanded. This causes significant curl across the entire build and the model pops right off the build plate. This was very noticeable with a large plastic disc I was printing. I've gone back to raft printing with one base layer and three interface layers. No curling whatsoever and I can detach the model off the raft very easily once it cools.
My most recent prints are superb. Summary: lose the ABP belt; lower the temp; slower prints; decent raft.
I have had this pealing problem making parts in the past. I have been able to eliminate them by enclosing my TOM on all four sides and top partialy. Now every part I print I run them in a nice and toasty enviroment and they print flat every time. FYI I always print raftless and at normal speed. Most parts I print take 3 to 4 hours to print, so if i dont keep the printing part warm, to top cools faster than bottom and the top will contract and pull the edges up. Anyway key for me was enclose the printer!
I have experimented with the enclosing and have taken some infra-red pictures to compare the two methods:
http://wiki.makerbot.com/forum/t-397403/help-on-the-details#post-1277933
In my case (basement without cold drafts and such) the difference was not that significant. Some people have seen dramatic differences.